00:05:33 Coffee (she/her): WHUMP 00:06:35 Toxic Marcotic (he/they): whump, there it is 00:08:35 Dan Alt (Adam Smasher he/him): Ain't THAT the truth... 00:20:39 Wreck (she/her): From an independent official's side of things, I feel very left out of any conversations. There are lots of us who have no clue what's going on, unless we have stronger connections with specific leagues (I'm one of those lucky ones) 00:21:07 Amy Feral Fouler: Wreck I'm right there with you 00:21:19 Trog (she/her): Echo Wreck's comment. I am very isolated from what is going on 00:21:48 Amy Feral Fouler: I'm lucky i'm in contact with people but I don't know what is going on beyond portland 00:22:11 Rebekka Potter (she/her): Same, Wreck and Amy. I feel involved in this meeting and on the Community, but I have no idea what's happening with derby in my area except what I see from friends on Facebook. I assume at some point they'll be planning scrimmages and look for officials and I hope I see those calls for help? 00:22:58 Toxic Marcotic (he/they): Yeahhhh - league here does seem to be hyper-focused on checkboxes, and less about what Wheels spoke about 00:24:29 bjmacke (Apron): MNRD is at about 20 skaters at practice, out of a pool of about 35-40 00:24:40 bjmacke (Apron): (down from 100) 00:24:49 Catherine Beat-Her Bonez (she/her): wow 00:25:28 Smacky (he/his): As an NSO, I’m not going to come to a practice if there’s nothing for me to do 00:25:52 Catherine Beat-Her Bonez (she/her): Is any league doing any kind of rules training? 00:26:26 Coffee (she/her): We’ve discussed it and have delegated people to do it, but interest is waning 00:26:41 Toxic Marcotic (he/they): It's been brought up, but not at a level that the curriculum suggests 00:26:51 A. Lex (they/them): I did a NSO crash course with the new Hamburg team prior to their scrim against Kiel (both north of Germany) 00:27:24 Mel: New Hampshire Roller Derby is working on informal rules training. And We've done a few online NSO training. Mostly it's a select few of new officials attending 00:27:51 Amy Feral Fouler: I haven't seen just "rules discussion" type practices since I left Monterey Bay 00:29:04 Roxie Riot: We're from a smaller league from Harrisburg PA and we've got a good number of officials but a lot are newer including our Head NSO. Is there a way we could get some centralized training from WFTDA for helping train us up? Googling for derby official training is really difficult with how even training from a few years ago is out of date and we can't use it 00:29:33 Dan Alt (Adam Smasher he/him): In terms of practice space, one issue is that with all the global supply chain shenanigans, warehouse space is often the most profitable use of space right now. https://www.npr.org/2021/11/12/1055366659/with-more-warehouses-in-america-than-ever-how-are-there-still-not-enough 00:30:34 Catherine Beat-Her Bonez (she/her): Roxie Riot, I’ll put it one the list - I think this is something we will have to consider more and more anyway 00:32:05 Reaver (all pronouns welcome): Heyo, Roxie Riot! Shoutout from a long-lost CDHS and HACC alum! HELLO, HARRISBURG!!! <3 00:35:13 Michael Gorman (Sho'Nuff): Coming from an area that does not have good covid control, I'd feel guilty showing up at a practice as an NSO at this point. We have to be so conscience of person density that having someone there who is only going to take part in a small piece of the practice is just making return to play harder. 00:36:40 bjmacke (Apron): This is when it makes sense to re-think officiating from the ground up. 00:38:11 Catherine Beat-Her Bonez (she/her): agree apron 00:39:24 Sean Hoyt: I feel like I’m having permission issues with the new system, but I haven’t investigated it much yet. 00:39:31 A Grue (they/them): I agree. The system feels aggressively opaque, as someone who's both good with software generally and also Very Online. 00:39:43 Mel: agreed @sean hoyt 00:40:04 Wreck (she/her): Yes! I'm also one of those people that's super frustrated with it, so I haven't even bothered with it. 00:42:05 A Grue (they/them): Has there been any sort of effort to talk to leagues about making sure they know what draws officials and what drives them away? I feel like a lot of those things are known (officials like helping and don't like to be yelled at) but somehow don't filter to the skater level. 00:43:26 Wreck (she/her): THANK YOU MARC!! I'm not in a space for audio so I can't hop on and ask, but I also would love to hear clarification on the grievance process now, since the Grievance Committee is no longer a thing. What constitutes an in-depth inquiry, and what is the appeals process? 00:47:50 Dan Alt (Adam Smasher he/him): Yeah, it's definitely hard to make the case to a new person "Hey, try NSOing! You might get to do it at a game in a year!" 00:47:54 Amy Feral Fouler: Off topic... is there any org chart posted somewhere? 00:48:06 Dan Alt (Adam Smasher he/him): That does NOT feel off topic. :) 00:48:16 Catherine Beat-Her Bonez (she/her): uff, there is no updated new org chart 00:49:07 Wheels and Ump [Whump]: org chart: there have been in the past. we were sort of in the middle of contemplating a larger re-org when everything stopped... but it's also always out of date the moment it gets published. things just change so fast 00:49:18 Wreck (she/her): Thanks, Wheels! There are times when I feel that Officiating is again feeling like an after-thought, and that we're a resource that is just expected to be there, without input into the situation 00:50:12 Amy Feral Fouler: Ump, can we tie it into the new community stuff so job titles are assigned to profiles and it updates as we go? 00:51:00 Wheels and Ump [Whump]: short answer: not really. tying anything into that system.... :/ 00:51:15 Callie Strouf: YAS!!! So much of this Wheels! Thank you! ❤️ 00:52:19 Toxic Marcotic (he/they): YEP @Bonez 00:52:38 A. Lex (they/them): Absolutely bonez 00:53:53 Toxic Marcotic (he/they): I've seen folks struggle with what/who "we" includes, there @Riot 00:53:54 Roxie Riot: So how do we avoid the discrepancy-o-matic issues again? 00:54:40 A Grue (they/them): Also, it would be good to make sure that folks who don't want to participate at the WFTDA level still have a place. Some of our best local officials were never interested in doing things outside our league. 00:54:48 Catherine Beat-Her Bonez (she/her): a 100% 00:55:04 Mel: Yes @A Grue 00:58:50 Wreck (she/her): Same, Ump, Same. 00:59:46 Catherine Beat-Her Bonez (she/her): acknowledged! 00:59:48 Amy Feral Fouler: This may be way premature... but I'd love to see technology be used more... i.e. Using the community platform to help with scheduling (a calendar with leagues/games "near me" type option) or using it to centralize stats books (get them out of Microsoft) 01:00:24 Catherine Beat-Her Bonez (she/her): noted! I like that idea 01:01:23 Toxic Marcotic (he/they): YES - the 1st ask from our training when I asked for them to also cover officiating (without drawing directly from our current officials), was for some resources for them to use. I have seen many posted in social circles 01:02:32 bjmacke (Apron): Echoing Riot - We're pretty restrictive on access at the moment, it would be hard to open up practices to non-members. 01:03:04 Dan Alt (Adam Smasher he/him): Girl, same. 01:03:35 Matt/Riot: Meetings like this help me personally with that motivation - not sure for other people - but seeing and talking about this with others is good 01:03:43 Toxic Marcotic (he/they): Same^ 01:03:51 Reaver (all pronouns welcome): same 01:03:52 Callie Strouf: YES! Very much! 01:03:57 A. Lex (they/them): @Matt that is the reason why I dailed in 01:04:03 Amy Feral Fouler: we should have social meetings LOL 01:04:25 Rebekka Potter (she/her): Same! This is the first "derby" I've "done" in a long time, and even this is reminding me why I did it in the first place. 01:04:30 Reaver (all pronouns welcome): Officials' Online Knit-In? 01:04:31 Toxic Marcotic (he/they): Community-driven, not skater-first pay-to-skate 01:04:45 Matt/Riot: But also if we could pull topics out of this and have more focused roundtable discussions - maybe start some of that work 01:04:49 Dan Alt (Adam Smasher he/him): I don't know if it would stay non-toxic, but a "non-derby" section of the community site MIGHT be a good idea? Maybe? I might be wrong. 01:05:08 Toxic Marcotic (he/they): Shout out to Shref! 01:05:27 Reaver (all pronouns welcome): YAY Shref! <3 01:05:50 Mel: On another note, there are a lot of senior officials here, it's hard for smaller leagues and beginning officials who don't have access to training and opportunities by the more senior knowledge base. Even senior skaters don't have the same understanding of rules and officiating roles to help with this education. 01:06:01 Toxic Marcotic (he/they): ^ 01:06:28 Roxie Riot: completely agree. 01:06:34 Raymond Ryan: Thanks all 01:06:41 Callie Strouf: thank you for being here everyone!!